Wednesday the return of the Intertoto semi-final against Roda JC will be played.

Vicente, Albelda and Cannizares have not taken the plane to the Netherlands, while Aimar -although returned to Valencia- is still on his last days of Vacation.

So these are the 18 players who travels to the Netherlands, Tuesday:
Porteros: Mora, Butelle.
Defensas: Pedro López, Marchena, Ayala, Caneira, Moretti, Carboni, José Enrique.
Centrocampistas: Rufete, Juanlu, Albiol, Fabio Aurelio, Edu.
Delanteros: Mista, Kluivert, Di Vaio, Villa.

http://www.valenciacf.es/noticias/prelimin...anner=Aleatorio

The match will be broadcasted (once again) on Canal 9 and no other channels.

It seems like Mora is getting the chance to show what is he made of

Vicente flew to Holland too. Maybe there is a small chance that he will play?

According to Marca.com, Kluivert will possibly be rested tomorrow. They guess this will be the team:

Mora
López, Caneira o Ayala, Marchena, Carboni
Rufete, Albiol, Edu, Fabio Aurelio
Mista y Villa.

Well now it might be time for Albiol and Mista to show how good they are at the moment!

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,659799,00.html

About their training place:
Valencia trained last night at 19:00 in the Parkstad Limburg Stadion!

Well I have to go now guys; going to Kerkrade within an hour!

Here are your links:
Radio Nou
Live Text on ValenciaCF.es

C ya later tonight

For you people who understand Dutch, on radio 1 'Langs de lijn' is on, so they will probably give flashes, whenever something happens.

Kluivert is being rested.
Starting line up:
13 Mora
3 Fabio Aurelio
4 Ayala
5 Marchena
7 Villa
12 Marco Caneira
15 Carboni
16 Raúl Albiol
19 Rufete
20 Mista
24 Moretti

Subs:
25 Butelle
9 Kluivert
18 Edu
22 Di Vaio
26 José Enrique
29 Pedro López
31 Juanlu

Kluivert must be ready for the final against Hamburg

It is not sure the final will be against Hamburg, though Hamburg are the favourites.

Well they don't, but then again, Paddy is not playing so it doesn't matter.

Hamburg won the first match with 1-0.
Now it's so.

20:15 begins.

34' Hamburger SV [1 - 0] Sigma Olomouc (Cze)

30' [1 - 0] B. Lauth

Is anyone tracking the game? Has there been any good chances for Valencia or Roda? I can´t follow the game anywhere. Only from livescore

Look at valencia.es, and spot the CAPITALS, and the exclamation marks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they are overreacting a little, over there in Spain.

Those things are all in spanish

hehe 0-0 and kluivert is not playing

they need the king but flores is resting him for the final

without kluivert valencia is nothing!!

hehe

Well Paddy didn't play, but in 6 days the first legg of the final is there, so hopefully we'll see a bit of him then.

Just back from roda-valencia. It was a pretty boring match with just a few chances for both clubs. If someone deserved to win it was Roda, but only because Valencia did even less. Only Villa managed to play good, didn't he GHoeberx?

Ah, GHoeberX went and didn't see Paddy play, again? You were also at the Cambuur match, right?

Not at all. Villa really bad. Especially in the first half he had 3 good opportunies to pass the ball to Mista, but everytime it just didn't work out!
I think in the first half Mista did pretty good and in the second half no-one really stood out. They simply had a solid defense; but they didn't gave great passes. It was simply a uninspirational training game.

I was planning to go to Buitenpost but I had a lot of reasons not to go. It would be quite hard to catch the last bus and I knew it would be awful rainy and that there is no where to hide in Buitenpost. Except for that I also knew Kluivert wouldn't play and that Aimar, Vicente and all other good players weren't in El Plantilla yet. That makes 4 good reasons not to go

Who saw this game? Please your thoughts about the game.Is 0-0 ideal score for this game?

In someways I am happy that Kluivert didn´t play. Now his is quite fresh for the game against Hamburg. I am sure he will play against them. The first leg is in Valencia right? So I think he will be in the starting lineup and if Valencia gets a good result then he will be rested in the away game.
How did Mora play in his offical debut?

Why did you do this topic after all?
We already got a topic for the game

I merged the topic in here

And Mora didn't have to do a lot. There were some shots from Roda from difficult angles which actually rarely go in; so except for those easy saves he didn't have to do a lot.

I think perhaps not playing Kluivert at all; shows that Flores is actually very confident in him. He didn't start with Edu and other good players either, and basically he put in the players who still have to proof themselves I think. The fact that Valencia didn't create any opportunity also tells a lot: without Kluivert, Aimar, Edu, Vicente they have no people to create chances... I also hope that Figo comes, because Rufete wasn't good at all IMO.

Do you think Quique will try to play Aimar on the right wing?

Because if not, i don't want him to compete with Pat for a 2nd striker/offensive midfielder spot.
They must play together!

I've seen a few old games of Valencia, and Aimar and Vicente played very well together.

Valencia can play with 3 strikers too. And I don´t think Aimar will compete with Kluivert. He´ll fight for his place with Mista, Di Vaio or Villa. And Kluivert isn´t an offensive midfielder. He likes to play as a pure striker.

I hope Aimar will play behind Kluivert and Villa, but with the system Valencia is playing now, there doesn't seem to be any room for him, because there is no attacking midfielder. The trainer also didn't say a word about his plans with Aimar, so I think he might be sold. Is Liverpool still interested in him?

Please don't sell Aimar...
Maybe they will play with Aimar behind the 2 strikers when they want a more offensive game, and with 2 more defensive midfielder (like at the moment with Albeda and Edu), against more attacking teams?

And there is also Ruben Baraja who when fit, is very likely to be in the first eleven.

But honestly, if they don't sign a new right winger, i'd rather have Aimar playing there than Rufete.

Rufete had an hat-trick the other night, showed nice finishing, but i don't see him create a lot of opportunities for the strikers...
Unlike Vicente.

what do you think of these formations

-------------------------Defense--------------------------------

------------------------Baraja------------Edu

--------Aimar(in a free role)---------------------Vicente

------------------Di Vaio(Villa)----------Kluivert


or why not

-------------------------Defense--------------------------------
----------------------Baraja-------------Edu

--------------------------------Aimar

--------Di Vaio(Villa)------Kluivert----------Vicente

Aimar can not be sold!
In my opinion he is the third best for Valencia.

xexx Yes you right my friend

Oops!!
He will be in the starting line-up in the away game and then if they get a good result, then maybe he will rest in the home game.
I think smth like that.

I like the second formation. Aimar best position is behind the strikers, and Kluivert is used to play in 4-3-3. But I can't see Valencia playing like this.

I think Aimar is a better choice than Rufete, but he is not a real winger. That's why I thought Aimar could leave Valencia, but I hope he will stay, because he is one of the best players of Valencia.

I think perhaps the weakest link are Di Vaio/Villa so why not play with a creative attack who can keep the ball possession better:

--------------Baraja
---------------Edu
Aimar Kluivert Mista Vicente

Based on last game vs Roda JC; Rufete played more like an inner midfielder than a right-winger; so that place will be great for Aimar.

It's good to hear that right-midfielder also is a good position for Aimar, but I thought Quique said he didn't want to buy a new right winger anymore, because he already had Angulo and Rufete. So he doesn't seem to have a lot of confidence in Aimar...

I prefer Villa in steed of Di Vaio. With Villa Valencia playes much better that with Di Vaio.

I saw it in Gent, it is the only game i have seen of Valencia because i went on vacantion.

I don´t think Aimar is going to be sold.

Valencia could play smth like this

--------------------------defenders ----------------------------------

------------------------ Edu/Baraja ----------------------------------

------ Rufete/Edu/Baraja --------------------------- Vicente--------

---------------------------- Aimar -----------------------------

------------------ Villa ------------------------ Kluivert ------------

But I think they need a very pacy striker for more mobility and Di Vaio and Villa are fast, Mista not really.

I can see Kluivert have a good partnership with Di Vaio, he(DV) just need to improve his
finishing. I don't think Mista should be more than 3rd/4th choice striker.